*THIS* is why I have rules about who I will shoot with. Protip - don't be a pervy douche to models, because it *will* bite you in the ass. I've now made it my goal to find out who this jerkwad is, and letting ALL models know.
This is the original ad on Craigslist. Most of the time, the foot fetish/pantyhose fetish guys are actually pretty cool, and they're, at the very least, normally respectful...
dallas.craigslist.org/dal/tlg/…
On Jul 27, 2013, at 11:57 PM, "craigslist 3964403873"
wrote:
****, I like your look and stats.
Congrats, you made the
1st cut!
Here is the breakdown and wardrobe options below
Also Due to the volume and quality of the responses so
far
I am going to do test mini shoots of about
30 minutes $75(pays you)dollars for those wishing to do
the
paid shoots .This will help me get an idea for those
that
fit the look and personality for all future shoots as
well
which areas of wardrobe concept best fit and can be
scheuled
asap(this week)
I do mainly simple digital and a lot of black and
whites
and for personal use/collection.
Which of these wardrobe options are your preference and
if
more than one..then order of preference
A) Pantyhose with corporate or business type look
with skirts, slacks and button down or pullover tops
etc
$150
B) Pantyhose in fitness mode with sports bra or t
shirt tied above the waist and pantyhose and thong only
below $175
C) Pantyhose with lingerie look and pantyhose and
thong below $200
D ) Any and all of the above with the same above the
waist but with Pantyhose ONLY from the waist
down $250.
E) Also for a non pantyhose ADDITIONAL alternative For
those with big
barefeet that Love to show them off!
5 ft 5 or taller with big barefeeet ..size 7 or larger
I offer a $100..
15 minute mini shoots ( 2 a week) with dirty baresole
feet,
jeans and casual top theme.
Again thanks for your entry and let me know these items
to
best move forward .Also please forward your age, height
and barefoot
size if you have not already .
Thanks I look forward to possibly working with you
soon.
Thanks, The Dick
Ok please note the shoots I was offered here... That will matter.
-----Original Message-----
From: ****
To: mnnq7-3964403873 <mnnq7-3964403873@gigs.craigslist.org>
Sent: Sun, Jul 28, 2013 1:26 am
Subject: Re: : Re: Stockings
I have pretty open availability, as long as I have a couple days notice. I can shoot any day, and just about any time. The only thing I know I have this week is two doctors appointments, one is at 9am on the 1st, and the other is the 30th at 2pm... But other than that I am totally open!
On Jul 28, 2013, at 1:39 AM, "craigslist 3964403873" <mnnq7-3964403873@gigs.craigslist.org> wrote:
Ok that sounds good and do-able from here with my schedule.I start shaping up my week and what times I will block off by Sunday evening or Monday AM...so give me a shout and we can get something scheduled for maybe Monday, Wednesday or Thursday
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-----Original Message-----
From: ****
To: mnnq7-3964403873
Sent: Sun, Jul 28, 2013 10:33 am
Subject: Re: Pantyhose Modeling (Dallas/Fort Worth)
Just FYI, I probably won't respond much today, I'm at Hurricane Harbor
with my family.. But I'll respond tonight when I get home!
(I try to be respectful when I know I will be out of contact for long periods of time... I don't want someone sitting around waiting on me if I'm nowhere near a computer...)
On Jul 28, 2013, at 1:23 PM, "craigslist 3964403873" wrote:
Nice. Hope you are having fun. I took my nieces a couple of weeks ago
and was still sore 2 days later trying to everything they did.
Ok sounds good! Just give me a call.Oh and FYI: A squeaky voice and
early bird gets the dick 1st each week.. so to speak! lolSo if you can
cuss ,then bring it. Usually someone who calls and drops a few F Bombs
etc gets full attention lol.And of course sets the and gets me in the
nude for a more likely "me nude " option
You can bring anything you think may be a fun addition stocking or hose
wise .I have assortment I like to rotate in
I also attached a pic of a fun pair of stockings. you would look good.
in. Great for showing "PPP" lol can you guess what that stands for?
(Really? That's just icky... It's a pantyhose shoot, not a bukake video.)
-----Original Message-----
From: ****
To: mnnq7-3964403873
Sent: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: Pantyhose Modeling (Dallas/Fort Worth)
Thank you, and sorry for not responding sooner... Hurricane Harbor completely exhausted me.
I'll be quite honest with you... I'm not good at playing the "adult" games... I just don't call people and act anything other than professional.
I'm really easy to work with, and I've worked with every photographer that I've shot with multiple times... I don't mind shooting nude, and honestly, it wouldn't matter what you were wearing or not wearing... But I just can't call someone and play a part like that, where I'm essentially having to turn you on to get a shoot.
I completely understand if that means we won't be working together, but I'd rather be honest than be considered a fake.
(I'd rather be straight up with someone and not shoot than put myself in a position that my safety will be compromised, or I will be uncomfortable)
On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:08 AM, "craigslist 3964403873" wrote:
"play a part" wtf less than professional? give me a fucking break. is this before or after your nude escort ad was flagged ?Talk about hypocritical. Your halo is dented '? If you saw teh girls in the picture you can easily see better looking girls than yourself are a part of the ongoing projects. I bent a little and went with your portly squatty body because you presented yourself well and have good stocking feet.
(Yeah... I'm portly and squatty at 5'2 and 113 lbs. Jenny Craig here I come *eyeroll* I have no idea what he's talking about with my "escort ad..." I don't post ads on Craigslist, and I respond to *very* few... And none of my ad responses would ever even remotely resemble an escort ad. I'm quite happily married, and not interested in cheating, even for money I don't need.)
1) Get a reality check.All of the girls in the photos and samples are more than eager to participate and call 3 times a day.
(Uh huh. I'm sure. No no, really, I am...)
2) PAID gigs where the female is fully clothed that are no touching and last 15 minutes that you can land without an agent , flexible scheduled and a 5ft 2 model " that pay $150/? Really ? Exactly how many of those have you landed ?
(Uh, actually, quite a few... I don't book ANY shoot where there is going to be "touching")
3) This is FULL model by photographer. The difference is it is 100% out of pocket for a fun budgetNOT something we both get paid on. Therefore personality fit as well as looks fit are a part of the equation for me. Its not a churn and burn one time thing or you get a gig because you raise your hand or sen and email? What if I When you have many more applicants than slots someone showing a little passion and character makes a difference. It also helps weed out the flakes and filter out boring statue like models. This IS a gig where personality is part of it so why would i spend one of 2 spots out of 25 replies on someone in email? Technically until you put on your big girl pants and make a phone call and separate yourself from the pack then you could be a 300lb guy.Your follow up skills are for ass.
(This "paragraph" kind of says it all...)
I dont wont work with flakes or uneducated morons.The fact that you dawdled for a day already took you out the mix. You had the # and the opt 30 hours before 3 people who all called today and booked. My week books on Monday. I hold out hope for anyone. You need to learn Supply and demand.
(Oh, ok... I'm terribly torn up about *that* loss, let me tell you...)
If you think there are more guys who look better than you do , that are 1005 direct and blunt, not 55 pot bellied and creepy that offer $150 no touching gigs where you are clothed and it is scheduled around you and paid at the time of OVER generic 5ft 2 applicants who want to do the gig then you need a dose of reality .
(I'm not really sure where he is going here... Last time I checked I was still female, but maybe he tries to get guys into pantyhose too?)
Everyone else loves the directness and the bluntness and finds it refreshing to deal with a non flake, who pays and is not a 60 year old slimeball
Everyone including myself is educated and a professional working adult.
(Sure thing. "Educated and professional working adults" don't send three page long "rant" emails about girls that go from being "hot" to "portly and stubby" just because they were honest...)
4) YOU were given a choice of mini shoots. If you wanted the $150 option then YES obviously there is a little more than raising your hand in email and landing a gig. If you are personality inadequate and cant pick up the phone and show a live voice and and if you view saying the F word as a laborious task a couple of times over the phone as "playing a part" and a laborious task to land a $75 more for the gig then you sure in the minority and you clearly feel inadequate or inferior to the samples and the girls in the photos. .It goes 100% in character in context with the gigs you are answering and posting for so dont -lay the innocent card.It is also shows me that if someone cant talk the talk you sure cant walk the walk.
(I'm not going to call someone and talk dirty to them to get a photoshoot. Period. That is NOT professional in ANY real industry)
Lastly YOU ALWAYS had the $75 option that would require NONE of this. If yu selected the $150 option for doing the SAME exact poses and the exact same length of shoot then it takes TWO of us to agree to that .If you view making a 5 minute phone call and setting the tone for your appointment as more labor and "playing apart" then what exactly do you think the extra the $75 is for?
(Really? Where exactly was I offered this?)
Do you ever ask yourself why you are in this financial situation and posting nude pics of yourself to land gigs and pay rent? Why one of us is in position to hire and pay?
(Last time I checked, I shot for FUN, not for a career. I work in IT. I'm a systems engineer/systems administrator. I'm also happily married. I'm missing the whole "land gigs and pay rent" portion of my life, I guess...)
Learn the difference between trading pics for poses. , a professional shoot where the photog makes money from the images, and a fun shoot that comes 100% out of the photogs pocket. In a gig where the photog PAYS you then the onus of value is on YOU the model.If you are paying the Photog for a shoot then the onus of value is on the Photog. If it is a business venture for profit then it is 50/50 .Business 101
I will put my list of character references and professional references up against yours 24/7.
Your email has been blocked. Good luck with your approach to gaining revenue .
(This guy can barely spell business, let alone run one...)